Scotland v France - 6 Nations

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How will we do against France?

Poll ended at Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:52 am

Win by more than 7
2
25%
Win by 7 or less
4
50%
Draw
0
No votes
Lose by 7 or less
1
13%
Lose by more than 7
1
13%
 
Total votes: 8

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Scotland v France - 6 Nations

Post by morgan » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:07 am

I see Hadden has names a 23 man squad that the team will be picked from to face france - but that he is looking to add another back;

John Barclay (Glasgow Warriors), Mike Blair (Edinburgh, Kelly Brown (Glasgow Warriors), Dave Callam (Edinburgh), Chris Cusiter (Perpignan), Nick De Luca and Ross Ford (both Edinburgh), Jim Hamilton (Leicester Tigers), Andrew Henderson (Glasgow Warriors), Nathan Hines (Perpignan), Allister Hogg, Allan Jacobsen and Gavin Kerr (all Edinburgh), Rory Lamont (Sale Sharks), Scott MacLeod (Llanelli Scarlets), Euan Murray (Northampton Saints), Dan Parks (Glasgow Warriors), Chris Paterson (Gloucester), Hugo Southwell (Edinburgh), Fergus Thomson (Glasgow Warriors), Nikki Walker (Ospreys), Simon Webster (Edinburgh), Jason White (Sale Sharks).

What do you think? What would you say are the major shocks?
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Post by niall » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:01 am

I assume that means Andy henderson is fit again? If so, he's a definite starter for me.


(I split this into a new thread, and added the poll!)
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Post by Roddy » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:15 am

So the team has been named - Paterson on the bench (I assume he will come on for Parks if he is not on his game) and De Luca starting.

The rest of the bench looks quite handy as well.

Will be interesting to see the pack weights as well - suspect we will have the 2nd heaviest after England in the 6Nations?

See Gary Strain is starting for the U20s on Friday night - no mention of Simmo - is he injured???


Scotland team (sponsor Murray) to play France in the RBS 6 Nations Championship at Murrayfield on Sunday 3 February (kick-off 3pm)

15 Rory Lamont (Sale Sharks)

14 Nikki Walker (Ospreys)
13 Nick De Luca (Edinburgh)
12 Andrew Henderson (Glasgow Warriors)
11 Simon Webster (Edinburgh)

10 Dan Parks (Glasgow Warriors)
9 Mike Blair (Edinburgh)*

1 Allan Jacobsen (Edinburgh)
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh)*
3 Euan Murray (Northampton Saints)
4 Nathan Hines (Perpignan)
5 Jim Hamilton (Leicester Tigers)
6 Jason White (Sale Sharks) CAPTAIN
8 Dave Callam (Edinburgh)*
7 John Barclay (Glasgow Warriors)*

Substitutes

16 Fergus Thomson (Glasgow Warriors)*
17 Gavin Kerr (Edinburgh)
18 Scott MacLeod (Llanelli Scarlets)
19 Kelly Brown (Glasgow Warriors)*
20 Chris Cusiter (Perpignan)
21 Chris Paterson (Gloucester)
22 Hugo Southwell (Edinburgh)

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Post by niall » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:40 am

Not too sure about Nikki Walker, but aside from that, it's not a bad team!
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Post by teenwolf » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:10 pm

strockosh doesn't even make the bench i thought he was playing amazing with gloucester
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can't believe it!!

Post by RodHar » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:35 pm

Walker!!! No Hogg!!! Callam!!! No Strokosh!!!!!
Does Frank Hadden watch / read anything lots of other well informed and credible people are saying about players. jeez never saw Walker or Callam given the talent that is available.
Not so comfortable now about our chances!

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Post by teenwolf » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:45 pm

jeez, i forgot about hogg - he's not in the 22 either I'd have prefered him at no8 to callam, but i don't see much of the pro teams so maybe i'm not best placed to comment. I think Taylor is the 1st pick and would have been there if not for the thumb injury.
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Post by morgan » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:22 pm

Roddy - about the U-20's,

Good to see strainer starting. As for Simmo, I cant say officially, but i heard he's been dropped from the squad altogether. I know they wanted him to turn into a prop last season, as the general opinion was he wasnt fit/fast enough for international rugby at back row. And i think he's still been playing club rugby as a back row...
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Post by Roddy » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:41 pm

He was in the 24 in December for the game against the Glasgow "back up squad" but not seen any reference to him since. No mention of him on the Heriot's site either where I think he has played 2nd row on occasion.

Simmo would admit that he, as well as a few of us, needs to train hard to keep the weight off....
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Post by Wee Davie » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:41 pm

Problem will be front rowdon't have a an international class prop but it depends on which French team turn up and our best goal kicker on the bench squeaky bum time all game

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Scotland team

Post by barryts » Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:48 pm

I can't see why Jonnie Beattie doesn't even touch the fringes of the team. He Kelly Brown and Barclay have been awsome this year. Think that Jason White should move to 2nd row to accomodate the Glasgow back row or dropped altogether. Stokosh should be at least on the bench.

Back line is good, with maybe Walker being a week link as he doesn't have much experience, but put it this way. Out of 15 Ospreys 14 Start this weekend with the best one (Marshal) obviously can't be involved.

Scotland have a real chance this year but it will be tough in every game.

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Post by niall » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:40 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/chec ... m=1&nbwm=1 you can listen to the U20 game online! though I think its near full time.

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Post by niall » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:08 pm

Full time: Scotland 6 (2 Pens) France 12 (2 tries, 1 conv)
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Post by RodHar » Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:13 pm

I wrote earlier.....Walker!!! No Hogg!!! Callam!!! No Strokosh!!!!!
Does Frank Hadden watch / read anything lots of other well informed and credible people are saying about players. jeez never saw Walker or Callam given the talent that is available.
Not so comfortable now about our chances!


I rest my case: Walker was a shambling unassertive hulk caught out of position too often and pushed out of touch by the wee Frenchies!!!
Callam, (and Big Jace !!!), was out of condition and lacklustre!
Paterson brought some much needed urgency and unsettled the French back line...after all Parks rarely (if ever) makes a line break...too predictable.
Where were the chasers! the hustlers! the tacklers! Woeful. For me De Luca in the second half started to show fast feet and fast hands ...needs more time and better support.

Bring in Strokosh, Hogg, Paterson maybe Tom Evans.

Thoughts lads?

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Post by barryts » Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:11 pm

I agree Rod,

I would bring in Beattie and play White at 2nd Row. Jim Hmilton does nothing on a pitch. We need creative players, so play a back row who can throw the ball about. I would stick with Parks as i think Patterson's tactical game is too rusty, but i would bring Chris in somewhere. On wing or Full back if Lamont is injured.

De Luca did look to be a threat. Think nerves got to him a bit, but he will come good.
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