It seems Frank Hadden is going to name his squad for the 6 Nations tomorrow (Tuesday 8th). Who do you all think should be in it (32 players)?
The original 44 man squad is:
Backs: M Blair, N De Luca, P Godman, C MacRae, H Southwell, S Webster (all Edinburgh), C Cusiter (Perpignan), S Danielli, R Dewey (both Ulster), M Di Rollo (Toulouse), T Evans, A Henderson, G Morrison, D Parks (all Glasgow), R Lamont (Sale), S Lamont (Northampton), R Lawson, C Paterson (both Gloucester), G Ross (Saracens), N Walker (Ospreys).
Forwards: J Barclay, J Beattie, K Brown, D Hall, A Kellock, M Low, F Thomson (all Glasgow), D Callam, R Ford, A Hogg, A Jacobsen, G Kerr, R Rennie, C Smith (all Edinburgh), A Dickinson, A Strokosch (both Gloucester), J Hamilton (Leicester), N Hines (Perpignan), S Lawson, J White (both Sale), S MacLeod (Scarlets), S Murray (Montauban), E Murray (Northampton), S Taylor (Stade Francais).
Not sure who I would pick, but I think i wouldn't pick: Di Rollo, Danielli, Dewey, Parks, Walker, Low, Rennie, and Smith (S Lamont is injured anyway).
Scotland to name 6-nations squad.
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Niall,
Agree with your non selectees...although Rennie looks like a very good prospect for the future. What price big Jace in the second row ...we've got so many good back rowers now who would you choose?
Barclay, Stockosh, Hogg, Beattie, (note I haven't put Simon Taylor in there).
The biggest weakness is in the props...... other than that if we pick De Luca then we're not badly off everywhere else.
Agree with your non selectees...although Rennie looks like a very good prospect for the future. What price big Jace in the second row ...we've got so many good back rowers now who would you choose?
Barclay, Stockosh, Hogg, Beattie, (note I haven't put Simon Taylor in there).
The biggest weakness is in the props...... other than that if we pick De Luca then we're not badly off everywhere else.
I think this will have made sure Chris Paterson stays in the squad;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXVDLJ91 ... gspot.com/
Gloucester have him on the bench most games so he should be fresh!
Jason White may well appear in the second row - a bit like his fellow Sale player Chabal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXVDLJ91 ... gspot.com/
Gloucester have him on the bench most games so he should be fresh!
Jason White may well appear in the second row - a bit like his fellow Sale player Chabal.
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan
yup, white for the middle row.
i think i'd have parks in the squad, mibbe not in the starting 15, but in the squad certainly.
Strockosch is making a big impact down south so i'd have him in the squad too and see how he goes.
is taylor getting a game for Stade Francais??
i think i'd have parks in the squad, mibbe not in the starting 15, but in the squad certainly.
Strockosch is making a big impact down south so i'd have him in the squad too and see how he goes.
is taylor getting a game for Stade Francais??
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squad has been announced:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 175027.stm
Backs: Mike Blair, Ben Cairns, (both Edinburgh), Chris Cusiter (Perpignan), Simon Danielli (Ulster), Nick De Luca (Edinburgh), Thom Evans (Glasgow Warriors), Phil Godman (Edinburgh), Rory Lamont (Sale Sharks), Rory Lawson (Gloucester), Calum MacRae (Edinburgh), Graeme Morrison, Dan Parks (both Glasgow), Chris Paterson (Gloucester), Hugo Southwell (Edinburgh), Nikki Walker (The Ospreys), Simon Webster (Edinburgh)
Forwards: John Barclay, Johnnie Beattie, Kelly Brown (all Glasgow), Dave Callam (Edinburgh), Alasdair Dickinson (Gloucester), Ross Ford (Edinburgh), Jim Hamilton (Leicester Tigers), Nathan Hines (Perpignan), Allister Hogg, Allan Jacobsen (both Edinburgh), Alastair Kellock (Glasgow), Gavin Kerr (Edinburgh), Moray Low (Glasgow Warriors), Scott MacLeod (Llanelli Scarlets), Euan Murray (Northampton Saints), Ross Rennie (Edinburgh), Alasdair Strokosch (Gloucester), Fergus Thomson (Glasgow), Jason White (Sale Sharks)
Injured but invited to the training session: Andrew Henderson (Glasgow), Simon Taylor (Stade Francais), Rob Dewey (Ulster).
No places for Scott Murray or Gordon Ross
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 175027.stm
Backs: Mike Blair, Ben Cairns, (both Edinburgh), Chris Cusiter (Perpignan), Simon Danielli (Ulster), Nick De Luca (Edinburgh), Thom Evans (Glasgow Warriors), Phil Godman (Edinburgh), Rory Lamont (Sale Sharks), Rory Lawson (Gloucester), Calum MacRae (Edinburgh), Graeme Morrison, Dan Parks (both Glasgow), Chris Paterson (Gloucester), Hugo Southwell (Edinburgh), Nikki Walker (The Ospreys), Simon Webster (Edinburgh)
Forwards: John Barclay, Johnnie Beattie, Kelly Brown (all Glasgow), Dave Callam (Edinburgh), Alasdair Dickinson (Gloucester), Ross Ford (Edinburgh), Jim Hamilton (Leicester Tigers), Nathan Hines (Perpignan), Allister Hogg, Allan Jacobsen (both Edinburgh), Alastair Kellock (Glasgow), Gavin Kerr (Edinburgh), Moray Low (Glasgow Warriors), Scott MacLeod (Llanelli Scarlets), Euan Murray (Northampton Saints), Ross Rennie (Edinburgh), Alasdair Strokosch (Gloucester), Fergus Thomson (Glasgow), Jason White (Sale Sharks)
Injured but invited to the training session: Andrew Henderson (Glasgow), Simon Taylor (Stade Francais), Rob Dewey (Ulster).
No places for Scott Murray or Gordon Ross
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Proposed Team?
F Row. Moray Low Ross Ford Euan Murray (Not sure who plays loose/tight)
2nd Row. Jason White Nathan Hines
Back Row. A Strokosh A Hogg J Barclay
9. Mike Blair
10. Chris Paterson
11. Simon Webster
12. Nick De Luca.
13. Andrew Henderson
14. Hugo Southwell or Thom Evans (bring back Sean Lamont)
15. Rory Lamont.
16. Fergus Thomson
17. Alasdair Dickinson
18. Jim Hamilton
19. Kelly Brown
20. Rory Lawson (difficult here with CC)
21. Dan Parks (never thought I'd say that but he's definately improved)
22. HS or TE (see 14)
??????????
2nd Row. Jason White Nathan Hines
Back Row. A Strokosh A Hogg J Barclay
9. Mike Blair
10. Chris Paterson
11. Simon Webster
12. Nick De Luca.
13. Andrew Henderson
14. Hugo Southwell or Thom Evans (bring back Sean Lamont)
15. Rory Lamont.
16. Fergus Thomson
17. Alasdair Dickinson
18. Jim Hamilton
19. Kelly Brown
20. Rory Lawson (difficult here with CC)
21. Dan Parks (never thought I'd say that but he's definately improved)
22. HS or TE (see 14)
??????????
1)
fair enough roddy, good score from paterson but in reality it was only one clip, sheer gas that scored that try, not outstanding rugby. he gased a fat boy caught in midfield, then his pace took him over.
he's hardly kicked a ball in the premiership, and that doesn't mean he's fresh, it means he lacks match practice. esp since he's been on the bench so not getting even reserve grade game time. which is BAD for scotland if they play him.
I have hated dan parks for a while, but he had a great world cup by scotland standards, is captaining glasgow, and playing 80 min every week.
Tough call, its not a simple as saying who's the best 10.
2)
Moray Low to start Rod?! In his first year as a full time pro? Big call, how do you think he's square up to andy sheridan, or any seasoned test match front rower?
Just a few things to think about......
fair enough roddy, good score from paterson but in reality it was only one clip, sheer gas that scored that try, not outstanding rugby. he gased a fat boy caught in midfield, then his pace took him over.
he's hardly kicked a ball in the premiership, and that doesn't mean he's fresh, it means he lacks match practice. esp since he's been on the bench so not getting even reserve grade game time. which is BAD for scotland if they play him.
I have hated dan parks for a while, but he had a great world cup by scotland standards, is captaining glasgow, and playing 80 min every week.
Tough call, its not a simple as saying who's the best 10.
2)
Moray Low to start Rod?! In his first year as a full time pro? Big call, how do you think he's square up to andy sheridan, or any seasoned test match front rower?
Just a few things to think about......
1) Fair comment Morgan but, having watched the whole game, he did look quite comfortable at 10 and will hopefully get a start soon. Gloucester have a good squad - even Strokosch was on the bench and he was Guiness Player of the Month! Dan Parks keeps bouncing back and can pin teams in their own 22 when on form.
2) Having watched Moray play for Glasgow I am sure he would "square up" to Sheridan, he likes to get in people's faces and is highly rated by those who know about the dark side of the front row... Would be suprised if he started any games but may come on against Wales or Ireland depending on their front row form.
Hope to see some of the young guys get their chance.
2) Having watched Moray play for Glasgow I am sure he would "square up" to Sheridan, he likes to get in people's faces and is highly rated by those who know about the dark side of the front row... Would be suprised if he started any games but may come on against Wales or Ireland depending on their front row form.
Hope to see some of the young guys get their chance.
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan
I know what you mean, hopefully he will get a starting slot soon, as as you say gloucester to have a big squad of quality players. From what i've seen he prob is the best 10 scotland have, but he needs game time at club level to get the confidence and sharpness to play to his full potential for scotland - so here's hoping he gets more game time soon!
As for moray low, i know what your saying, and your definately right that blooding him in against ireland or wales would be good for the future, as he looks to have the potential, and ire and wal prob have the least rated front rows in 6 nations. So yes he deserves his chance at some point!
As for moray low, i know what your saying, and your definately right that blooding him in against ireland or wales would be good for the future, as he looks to have the potential, and ire and wal prob have the least rated front rows in 6 nations. So yes he deserves his chance at some point!
Propsed teams
Morgan, Roddy, Niall what would your respective line ups be?
Hi Rod
Can't say I would change your line up too much..
Looking at the first game, which is France at home, I would think that it would probably be Jacobson, Ford & Murray (Murray & Low are both tight heads - number 3), 2nd row a bit trickier - if going for bulk Hamilton & Hines with White, Hogg & Brown in the back row.
Perhaps Dewy in preference over De Luca if he can prove his fitness & get a few games with Ulster under his belt (will their coach be sympathetic to our cause...) - Parks or Paterson will be the big call though & it is interesting to see Paterson is listed as a full back on the SRU site..
Can't say I would change your line up too much..
Looking at the first game, which is France at home, I would think that it would probably be Jacobson, Ford & Murray (Murray & Low are both tight heads - number 3), 2nd row a bit trickier - if going for bulk Hamilton & Hines with White, Hogg & Brown in the back row.
Perhaps Dewy in preference over De Luca if he can prove his fitness & get a few games with Ulster under his belt (will their coach be sympathetic to our cause...) - Parks or Paterson will be the big call though & it is interesting to see Paterson is listed as a full back on the SRU site..
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan
tough call, but i think i would plump for:
1 Kerr
2 Ford
3 Murray
4 White
5 Hamilton/Hines
6 Barclay
7 Hogg
8 Beattie
9 Cusiter
10 Paterson/Godman (Personally, i think Gordon Ross is the best 10 we have!)
11 Evans/Paterson
12 De Luca (Henderson if he's fit)
13 Webster
14 Lamont
15 Southwell
subs: Dickinson, Thomson, Brown, MacLeod, Blair, Godman/Parks, McRae
just noticed we only have two hookers in the squad, Ford and Thomson. :S
1 Kerr
2 Ford
3 Murray
4 White
5 Hamilton/Hines
6 Barclay
7 Hogg
8 Beattie
9 Cusiter
10 Paterson/Godman (Personally, i think Gordon Ross is the best 10 we have!)
11 Evans/Paterson
12 De Luca (Henderson if he's fit)
13 Webster
14 Lamont
15 Southwell
subs: Dickinson, Thomson, Brown, MacLeod, Blair, Godman/Parks, McRae
just noticed we only have two hookers in the squad, Ford and Thomson. :S
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Team
Based on the players in the training squad, i would pick the following if all match fit and match sharp;
15 Hugo Southwell
14 Simon Webster
13 Nick De Luca
12 Andrew Henderson
11 Rory Lamont
10 Chris Paterson
9 Mike Blair
1 Gavin Kerr
2 Ross Ford
3 Euan Murray
4 Nathan Hines
5 Jason White
6 Ally Strokosh
7 John Barclay
8 Ally Hogg
Main subs i would be tempted to make to change things are moving Lamont to full back with Thom Evans coming on to the wing at the expense of Southwell.
I think Paterson is our best 10, but with no regular starting slot at his club, i'd have Dan Parks ready to come on, or even start depending on how much he plays at Gloucester over the coming weeks.
I would be tempted to bring on Ally Dickinson at Loosehead to see if he is up to task at that level as i dont think Kerr is more than a stop gap.
Also i'd be getting Fergus Thompson off the bench to get as much game time as poss at hooker to get him fitting in, as although Ross ford is huge i think skills wise he is a very average rugby player.
In the back row Beattie, Callam, or Brown could easily switch in for my starters depending on form.
15 Hugo Southwell
14 Simon Webster
13 Nick De Luca
12 Andrew Henderson
11 Rory Lamont
10 Chris Paterson
9 Mike Blair
1 Gavin Kerr
2 Ross Ford
3 Euan Murray
4 Nathan Hines
5 Jason White
6 Ally Strokosh
7 John Barclay
8 Ally Hogg
Main subs i would be tempted to make to change things are moving Lamont to full back with Thom Evans coming on to the wing at the expense of Southwell.
I think Paterson is our best 10, but with no regular starting slot at his club, i'd have Dan Parks ready to come on, or even start depending on how much he plays at Gloucester over the coming weeks.
I would be tempted to bring on Ally Dickinson at Loosehead to see if he is up to task at that level as i dont think Kerr is more than a stop gap.
Also i'd be getting Fergus Thompson off the bench to get as much game time as poss at hooker to get him fitting in, as although Ross ford is huge i think skills wise he is a very average rugby player.
In the back row Beattie, Callam, or Brown could easily switch in for my starters depending on form.
1 Kerr
2 Ford
3 Murray
4 Hines
5 White
6 Taylor
7 Brown
8 Hogg
9 Blair
10 Godman
11 Paterson
12 Henderson
13 Webster
14 Evans
15 Lamont
16 Jacobsen
17 Thomson
18 Hamilton
19 Barclay
20 Cusiter
21 Danielli
22 Southwell
BACKS
we need pace outwide which webster and evans both have in abundance. paterson has to be there for his metronomic goal kicking. lamont jnr. was the outstanding back at the rwc so you really need to have him in there, he is unpredictable and gives defenders a headache especially when he counter attacks from deep.
HALFBACKS
the edinburgh pairing are playing well together and getting great results. they also have had a lot of game time in their respective positions which i'm not sure if cusiter or paterson have had. godman is growing into a good play maker and his dg against cardiff, in swimming pool conditions, shows he can make it when put under pressure.
FRONT ROW
the only front row that i really rate is Murray, he's got a more rounded game than any of the other front rowers and can make an impact about the field. the other 2 are there cos they have experience and solid enough performers.
LOCKS
If you go for white you are giving away a bit of bulk so you need an animal in there with him and that's Hines. both are ball carriers and white is a superb tackler and leader so you need him somewhere in the team
BACK ROW
If fit this lot have got to play together, they have class and experience of winning big games in the jersey. taylor & hogg are interchangeable at 6/8 and brown is a battling guddling openside with lots to give in the loose. i haven't saw a lot of barclay, but on his performance at rwc i wouldn't be concerned if he was picked.
THE BENCH
versatility is the name of the game with the backs, southwell is fine on either the centre or at fb. if you bring him on you don't have to shuffle the deck so injuries don't scupper a well performing backline. you need cover at half back hence why cusiter is there (paterson can move to 10 if need be). danielli is a different winger to the 2 that are in the starting team so we can change the way we play if need be. hamilton is a genetic freak so has to be there for that reason, not much of an impact player but will do a job when hines tires. barclay should get his chance to shine from the bench.
2 Ford
3 Murray
4 Hines
5 White
6 Taylor
7 Brown
8 Hogg
9 Blair
10 Godman
11 Paterson
12 Henderson
13 Webster
14 Evans
15 Lamont
16 Jacobsen
17 Thomson
18 Hamilton
19 Barclay
20 Cusiter
21 Danielli
22 Southwell
BACKS
we need pace outwide which webster and evans both have in abundance. paterson has to be there for his metronomic goal kicking. lamont jnr. was the outstanding back at the rwc so you really need to have him in there, he is unpredictable and gives defenders a headache especially when he counter attacks from deep.
HALFBACKS
the edinburgh pairing are playing well together and getting great results. they also have had a lot of game time in their respective positions which i'm not sure if cusiter or paterson have had. godman is growing into a good play maker and his dg against cardiff, in swimming pool conditions, shows he can make it when put under pressure.
FRONT ROW
the only front row that i really rate is Murray, he's got a more rounded game than any of the other front rowers and can make an impact about the field. the other 2 are there cos they have experience and solid enough performers.
LOCKS
If you go for white you are giving away a bit of bulk so you need an animal in there with him and that's Hines. both are ball carriers and white is a superb tackler and leader so you need him somewhere in the team
BACK ROW
If fit this lot have got to play together, they have class and experience of winning big games in the jersey. taylor & hogg are interchangeable at 6/8 and brown is a battling guddling openside with lots to give in the loose. i haven't saw a lot of barclay, but on his performance at rwc i wouldn't be concerned if he was picked.
THE BENCH
versatility is the name of the game with the backs, southwell is fine on either the centre or at fb. if you bring him on you don't have to shuffle the deck so injuries don't scupper a well performing backline. you need cover at half back hence why cusiter is there (paterson can move to 10 if need be). danielli is a different winger to the 2 that are in the starting team so we can change the way we play if need be. hamilton is a genetic freak so has to be there for that reason, not much of an impact player but will do a job when hines tires. barclay should get his chance to shine from the bench.
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not too many major issues between us all, although I just get so frustrated with Kerr...weak, penalty liability, poor tackler..even his scrummaging is not what it needs to be. Also I think the SRU have seriuosly screwed with Taylor he's not half the impact player he used to be...think Barclay and Beattie are now doing what he USED to do and are doing it well.